Wolves 0-4 Man City (16/08/2025) - Verdict Thread

[Alan]

Hardly more than you are, just starting from not disliking Mario.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Sorry why are we talking about Mario Lemina?

Not entirely sure, him liking Nunes's post is expected, Raul doing that isn't.

 

[Alan]

Sorry why are we talking about Mario Lemina?

Because people think social media matters or something

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Hardly more than you are, just starting from not disliking Mario.

I liked Mario until he started to behave like a cock.

 

[Alan]

I think you dismissing MR'S behaviour as ok because of GON tallies with the what I see as ridiculous idea that captaincy is not important.

You don't seem to think any of those psychological aspects of leadership or management are important, yet also think GON's management gave him free reign to behave like a dick. It's a contradiction i can't understand.

No, I would say that everyone else is ignoring the importance of Mario’s psychological fitness whilst going through that awful winless run, listening to GO slag Jørgen and Cunha publicly, etc etc.

The psychological health of the squad is absolutely crucial to success, but pretending the captain should be utterly immune to a manager’s toxicity is just silly, especially when it’s a guy who lead through emotion, and that’s always playing with fire even at the best of times.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

, but pretending the captain should be utterly immune to a manager’s toxicity is just silly,

Who is doing that?

But as a captain, you need to lead, not wilt, crying against Liverpool was nothing to do with GON.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It's not far off a year since Mario Lemina started a game for Wolves.

Might be more pertinent to have a look at us playing three centre halves yesterday and none of them looked like they were good enough for this level.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It's not far off a year since Mario Lemina started a game for Wolves.

Might be more pertinent to have a look at us playing three centre halves yesterday and none of them looked like they were good enough for this level.

Ah, thanks for telling me what i should be talking about, it's appreciated

You and I regularly talk about 90s football? Should we stop doing that too?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

It'd be weird on a verdict thread, less than 24 hours after the game finished, if I suddenly started wanging on about Paul Simpson.

You talk about what you want with Alan but I don't think anyone else finds it remotely interesting, what has this got to do with anything.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

It'd be weird on a verdict thread, less than 24 hours after the game finished, if I suddenly started wanging on about Paul Simpson.

You talk about what you want with Alan but I don't think anyone else finds it remotely interesting, what has this got to do with anything.

It's how conversations develop/evolve isn't it, this constant policing by people is completely unnecessary, are you worried about the server capacity or something?

This conversation started because of Nunes's post yesterday, it's a talking point. If you don't find it interesting move on, watch the Chelsea game or the Forest game.

I didn't find most of the bitching in this thread interesting yesterday, I didn't feel the need to tell people to stop talking about what they felt they wanted to, so why do you? Would you walk into a pub, hear a couple of people talking about something you weren't interested in and say "excuse me, can you talk about something else? This is boring to me, and I'm speaking on behalf of everyone else in the pub when I say it's boring for them too.."

What actually "derails" threads is people pissing and moaning about the subject of a conversation, not the actual subject itself!

Anyway THIS is fucking boring, cheers.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Fine, I'm just telling you that I don't give a shit what Mario Lemina does on social media. Absolutely none of my concern, he's a player I've not given a second's thought since he left.

What did you think of Doherty and Sa yesterday, I'm interested in that. Two players I've long since said aren't even close to good enough and you've defended.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Ah, really gunning for me lately aren't you?

I think Sa was poor on Haaland's 2nd, their 2nd was a great finish hit really early.

I wonder why he wears full length joggers and has done for a while? Particularly on hot days, injury?

Doc is Doc, he certainly isn't a cowardly "tub of fuck" i think thats pretty disgusting thing to say about him to be honest.

Especially when I think back as recently as last week when he put his head in where it really hurts to block a certain goal in a friendly!

Is he too passive when blocking sometimes, yes.
Do we need better? Yes,
Is he better than you think he is? Yes.
Does he currently have the weakest Premier League RWB we've ever had outside of him. Yes.
Do you "constantly" talk about him, and seemingly want him to fail? Yes.

 

[Dire Wolf]

Fine, I'm just telling you that I don't give a shit what Mario Lemina does on social media. Absolutely none of my concern, he's a player I've not given a second's thought since he left.

What did you think of Doherty and Sa yesterday, I'm interested in that. Two players I've long since said aren't even close to good enough and you've defended.

On the 2nd paragraph: there are 5 players who started yesterday who should be bench warmers at best, Sa and Doc are 2 of them. Hoever, Bellegarde, and Munetsi are the others, although I thought Munetsi had a decent enough game and even looked okay in possession, which is new.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Ah, really gunning for me lately aren't you?

No?

Thanks for your thoughts, I don't "want" Doherty to fail like I don't want any Wolves player to fail, I am however thoroughly sick of watching him.

 

[pavlosmacwolf]

Ah, really gunning for me lately aren't you?

I think Sa was poor on Haaland's 2nd, their 2nd was a great finish hit really early.

I wonder why he wears full length joggers and has done for a while? Particularly on hot days, injury?

Doc is Doc, he certainly isn't a cowardly "tub of fuck" i think thats pretty disgusting thing to say about him to be honest.

Especially when I think back as recently as last week when he put his head in where it really hurts to block a certain goal in a friendly!

Is he too passive when blocking sometimes, yes.
Do we need better? Yes,
Is he better than you think he is? Yes.
Does he currently have the weakest Premier League RWB we've ever had outside of him. Yes.
Do you "constantly" talk about him, and seemingly want him to fail? Yes.

Fuck me, who left the lamb bone from sunday lunch out.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

Fuck me, who left the lamb bone from sunday lunch out.

You ok mate? What's wrong?

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

By the way that absolutely is cowardly yesterday. Look at the fucking state of it.

That's how he sets up and THEN he flinches out of the way.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

By the way that absolutely is cowardly yesterday. Look at the fucking state of it.

That's how he sets up and THEN he flinches out of the way.

I absolutely hate players putting their arms behind their backs, it means they don't shape up right at all. Bournemouth defenders doing it all over the shop the other night.

It's a totally flawed logic, but the nonsense hand ball law means it's a thing.

 

[Elephant Pyjamas]

By the way that absolutely is cowardly yesterday. Look at the fucking state of it.

That's how he sets up and THEN he flinches out of the way.

You can see here why Sa struggled to keep it out too, he's having to look over Doc's left shoulder.