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Boris at it again and the contest to replace the lying c***

For sure, but you are ignoring the fact that the UK was pulled out by the Establishment to protect dirty money in The City and places like Gibraltar. I haven't heard of any other EU member state's money dealers squealing so much about the post 2012 controls in places like Frankfurt, Milan, Paris, Brussels and Amsterdam.
PS The UK Establishment has been pulling a similar tantrum with Hong Kong returning to Chinese jurisdiction.
 
You will find the same response in France, Germany and many other places about their countries. The world has changed
You might be surprised. Nothing changes.

I have just read an article in History Today about VE day. I summarise...

People were not celebrating outside Leicester Square.
They despised all politician's.
They weren't looking forward to the future.
Even though Labour won the election, nobody was very enthused.

There is a lot of nonsense in the media about VE day backed up by a couple of photos.
It seems most people spent a quite night at home and went to work the next day,

80 years on....we are still in the same situation.
People do not like or trust politicians.
 
For sure, but you are ignoring the fact that the UK was pulled out by the Establishment to protect dirty money in The City and places like Gibraltar. I haven't heard of any other EU member state's money dealers squealing so much about the post 2012 controls in places like Frankfurt, Milan, Paris, Brussels and Amsterdam.

The UK was pulled out, because people voted to leave the EU.
Italy and France have a higher percentage of corruption than the UK and the UK and Germany will be pretty similar.
 
The benefit was always going to be, we vote for people who make the decisions, in the EU, we were tied to decisions that were imposed on us. It was always about democracy for me and always will be.
Sorry Walshes, that is complete and utter gullible and simplistic nonsense you have swallowed hook, line and sinker.

You could say that about Wolverhampton Council, The West Midlands version, the lack of an English regional or ´national´ government as in Wales and Scotland, and at UK level with the wretched Houses of Parliament first past the post system and the house of ´Lords and Ladies´.

Furthermore, the UK has no formal Constitution and it is one of only TWO countries with reserved places for members of the state religion. The other is Iran. To finish that you could also add the riotously undemocratic roles of the Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church which is headquartered in a foreign state and to which many UK citizens owe their first allegiance. i could also never vote on aspects of Jewish or Sharia law as implemented in some parts of the UK where I have lived either.

As for making democratic decisions when the royal family has to be consulted/negotiated with BEFORE, DURING and AFTER any law is put through parliament.....

And, this is the country that most people cannot name properly and which has attacked more countries than any other in human history, at 171 out of around 200. I guess we were democratically elected to invade them.

I won´t bother to comment further on the role and tools of the Establishment in guiding us into submission.

`We vote for people who make the decisions, we were tied to decisions that were imposed on us`.

Sadly, that is a completely laughable statement from someone who can write well and should know better.

I speak as a UK ´subject´ not ´citizen´ who was not allowed to vote in that wretched Brexit process.

Come on Walshes, think about it rather than churn out stuff like you have today. :)
 
Sorry Walshes, that is complete and utter gullible and simplistic nonsense you have swallowed hook, line and sinker.

You could say that about Wolverhampton Council, The West Midlands version, the lack of an English regional or ´national´ government as in Wales and Scotland, and at UK level with the wretched Houses of Parliament first past the post system and the house of ´Lords and Ladies´.

Furthermore, the UK has no formal Constitution and it is one of only TWO countries with reserved places for members of the state religion. The other is Iran. To finish that you could also add the riotously undemocratic roles of

I won´t bother to comment further on the role and tools of the Establishment in guiding us into submission.
The Establishment did everything to stop Brexit, as did the majority of our politicians. Now thankfully the major parties are behind Brexit, because they are only interested in getting elected.
 
Funny how random things pop into your mind, reading this thread this week has had me thinking of journeyman Irish darts pro Brendan Dolan. But I can't think why.

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