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Wolves 1-1 Brighton: Verdict Thread

Poor tactical decisions leading to poor substitutions ultimately. Three centre-backs plus the height of Tchatch and Munetsi and they score from a header? I think we`re buggered.
 
Going in to the October international break without a win, and the poor form at the end of last season.

Any normal club probably sacks their manager.
This is a club which persevered with the hapless Gary O'Neil, even after he lost the 'El Sackico' game. "Normal club" indeed!
 
Going in to the October international break without a win, and the poor form at the end of last season.

Any normal club probably sacks their manager.
You could say the exact same thing about last season and every word applies. And we gave him until mid-December.

We are awfully run.
 
No win in 11 now 8 of which have been losses, terrible teams always find ways not to win games. We did last week and again this one.
We’re toast in this league and it won’t be a close one
 
Try explain the decisions of victor pereira first, and i dont return to this thread.
No.

I'm not wasting my time talking to someone who at best, has a tangential connection to Wolves (because we have a couple of ex-players) and having them tell me they know better about a club that I've followed for nearly 40 years.

Go and talk about your own team on your own forum please.
 
I don't agree with the changes but I'm not sure what impetus we had really.

We badly lack flair and there's no way we were on top. We're a team with virtually no invention in the final third.
Agree but our most inventive player spends all his time warming the bench!
 
Hwang.

This is our Cunha replacement, he’s playing in his position. He’s dropping deep, he’s trying to cut in. And he is fucking shit, absolutely massively shit.

We have plenty of shit players, Munetsi is probably one of the worst PL players we have had, but he tries - he gives everything. It’s not his fault he’s shit but at least he tries.

That cunt Hwang doesn’t even do that, he gives the impression of trying but then throws himself to the ground and pretends he’s taken a blow to the head. Players die from head injuries, literally died last week. And this utter piece of shit simulates it every week.

We all know he only plays as he brings in literally 10s of Korean fans every game (including the entitled wanker who wouldn’t accept that he wasn’t allowed to drink beer at his seat today, if anyone else had done that we’d have had our heads stoved by the police).

I’m ambivalent to VP, I hope he comes good, I really do. But if he starts Hwang again I’m founding the VP out club, I’ll get the magic marker and bedsheet out right away.

He’s a fucking disgrace, he is everything wrong with this club: Jota -> Neto -> Cunha -> Hwang.
 
For me that not is the problem.

Brighton look have better player because they play whit a good tactic, moves, and have a good coach to made that good games.

Wolves, no have any tactic, are all time passint to gk, to gk send a long ball out, the midfields are all time quiet, and by that the defense have problems to get out the ball, are all time passing to the wings, ant that are easy to predict.
I get English is your 2nd language but that’s garbled nonsense. There's a reason why Brighton have been where they are the past couple of weeks years and we are where we are. To say we have better individual players than Brighton is ridiculous
 
Today confirmed what most people already knew - we lack pace to hit teams on the break which is essential if you’re going to try and defend so deep for so long. Without that pace you’re effectively hanging on to what you’ve got for a third of the game and like last week there was a sense of inevitability about them getting an equaliser. Truly awful tactics at the best of times but to do so leaving Arias as our only outlet up front was ridiculous.

Most starters did ok with exception of Hwang who was his usual dreadful self. If he starts at Sunderland VP should be sacked before ko!

Special mention for Johnstone, that save was one of the best I’ve ever seen.
 
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I get English is your 2nd language but that’s garbled nonsense. There's a reason why Brighton have been where they are the past couple of weeks years and we are where we are. To say we have better individual players than Brighton is ridiculous

Im talking about indiviual players, not about of coachs.

The coach change the valoration of the players.

If you put Muntesi on FW and put R. Gomes and Hoever on defense, the valoration of that player turn down, and not are bad players. Only are playing on strange positions.

Are like Tolu and Larsen. If you have two good scorers, and tall player to win aireal duels, but are all time on defense, and dont put any good center on the area, its imposible to they play good.

And not are because they are bad players, only bad tactic, and lineups. And that made all player down the valorations.
 
In isolation, not a bad result and we appear to be improving. But we should have won that game. Arias has to score, Strand Larsen was unlucky not to score. I have no idea why we went 5 at the back, it didn’t seem necessary and simply invited Brighton onto us. Substitutions equally off, they lacked confidence and belief. In the end we got what we deserved.

Grrr.
 
I'm going to be a bit controversial here and go against the grain - I sort of understand Vitor's decisions.

We BADLY need a win, and we were 1-0 up with not that much threat from Brighton. Indeed, after the tactical change they offered less, not many chances and credit due to Santi (fair fucks to this guy btw, I've been a vocal critic but he has been excellent of late) and Krejci. Johnstone also proving me wrong, playing well, deserves the shirt.

But they're not helped by the clown at right back who I thought was poor throughout, switches off after the corner (probably wasn't a corner but dunno why he's not seen it out) then simply doesn't pay attention for the short corner.

But I think the tactics made some sort of sense even if I didn't agree with them. They weren't threatening, we're low on confidence, we badly needed to win, and he's probably got more confidence in his back line than I have. Yes, frustrating to see but I sort of understood why he did it - we need points, so we tried to protect the very slender advantage we had. It didn't work. Please don't think this is me agreeing with the tactical change because it isn't.

We're better than we were a few weeks ago, I think points will come, but whether it'll be enough I really don't know.
 
I'm going to be a bit controversial here and go against the grain - I sort of understand Vitor's decisions.

We BADLY need a win, and we were 1-0 up with not that much threat from Brighton. Indeed, after the tactical change they offered less, not many chances and credit due to Santi (fair fucks to this guy btw, I've been a vocal critic but he has been excellent of late) and Krejci. Johnstone also proving me wrong, playing well, deserves the shirt.

But they're not helped by the clown at right back who I thought was poor throughout, switches off after the corner (probably wasn't a corner but dunno why he's not seen it out) then simply doesn't pay attention for the short corner.

But I think the tactics made some sort of sense even if I didn't agree with them. They weren't threatening, we're low on confidence, we badly needed to win, and he's probably got more confidence in his back line than I have. Yes, frustrating to see but I sort of understood why he did it - we need points, so we tried to protect the very slender advantage we had. It didn't work. Please don't think this is me agreeing with the tactical change because it isn't.

We're better than we were a few weeks ago, I think points will come, but whether it'll be enough I really don't know.
If they weren’t threatening as you say, you don’t start defending the edge of the area after 55 minutes.

Criminal tactics and no one needs to buck a trend by attempting to defend them. It is what it is. He’s cost us 4 points across the last two games.
 
I had to go out for my driving lesson so missed the last 10 minutes. I KNEW I’d come home to see that it was 1-1. So entirely predictable.
 
Yep the second half subs and sitting back for 35 minutes killed us. The game had back and forth until then, we just let ourselves get penned in and as soon as that happens you feel like you know how it will end.

Really not seeing the point of Arias yet. He's playing off the right now but looks about as effective as Hwang. Nowhere near dynamic enough, not making enough runs to invite a pass. If those are our two best options behind JSL we're toast.
 
Another thought the game left me with is: if you only have one striker playing at home, why spend over twenty million on Tolu if you can't get him? Why can't they play alongside Larssen?
Best regards.
 
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