Let's talk about Nuno....

[Tredman]

No manager in the PL is 'bomb proof' - Lampard is being seriously questioned right now

That’s because Lampard is not a very good manager, nor has he achieved much in either of his roles. If he wasn’t called Frank Lampard he’d be nowhere near Chelsea.

 

[Wolvensam]

It's OK to have questions or doubts that Nuno can take us into the top 6 regularly.

But Nuno has also more than deserved a proper chance to see if he can achieve it. He needs a full pre-season and at least half a season to see if he can implement it successfully.

I think he is actually the victim of his own success. We are no where near the quality to finish regularly in the top 6. Yet.

 

[Amanda]

I love Nuno, i hope he stays for a long time

 

[Johnny75]

The more I think about it, the more insane I think we'd be to even consider changing the manager. We landed one of the best coaches in Europe when we were 15th in the Championship and since had unprecedented success for many of us who didn't get to see us in the 70s (or earlier ).

We are facing our first extended run of form under Nuno with the one win in ten. He's not turned that round yet, some of that is a bit of bad luck, plenty of it is on him. It doesn't mean we should just desert him though. He's turned around similar tactical issues before (start of last season when we had same issues vacating the middle of the pitch). I think he knows the 4231 is the best way of solving a lot of those problems but without Podence, or a focal point he's looked at ways to cover those deficiencies (ie. "solutions" that weird people get upset by him saying).

We just need to get through to the end of this season without anything mental happening. Improve the form short term (next 6 games), improve the performances medium term (next 12 games) for us to build on ahead of next season. I think we will invest a fair bit in some key areas, and if we get the right we will have a very nicely balanced squad with some real quality all over the pitch. That's where we need to get to in the next six months or so.

I know it sounds mercenary but if Nuno has run out of ideas and the results or style stay the same AND a top class coach is willing to come to Wolves we’d be mad not to change.

I don’t think Nuno has run out of ideas but he may need a rethink on some coaching staff even to just implement some new ideas.

But if a Thomas Tuchel was interested (he wouldn’t be) then we’d have to seriously consider it.

I hope he turns it round.

 

[Donegal Wolf]

I always find it astounding that people are happy to forget three oustanding seasons because of a poor run of nine games...

it really is pathetic tbh.

Totally agree but that's football virtuaily every manager is only 6 to 10 games away from the sack.
Sure Ranieri was sacked 9 months after winning the league with Leicester.

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

I'd be very surprised if we got 47 points, in fact I think 40, quite possibly less, is much more likely. If you are saying you'd only consider his position if we got relegated aren't you are effectively you are saying you'd stick with Nuno just because there are three really awful teams in the division?

We are not like Norwich who expected to struggle from the outset and judged their manager accordingly, we finished 7th, tweaked the squad and have got to the midpoint not having a clue how to set up from one week to the next. I'm more bothered about performances than points as I think we'll stay up regardless because of the aforementioned poor teams. If we are as as poor as we have been recently, or even close to it, come May, some serious questions need to be asked.

Do you think we will get less points in the second half of the season than the 1st?

With the signing of Willian and return of Raul, Neto etc i think we would may be get more points.

 

[Wilf Wolf]

Do you think we will get less points in the second half of the season than the 1st?

With the signing of Willian and return of Raul, Neto etc i think we would may be get more points.

Momentum can make a huge difference and currently we’re in reverse gear. Hopefully Jose will kick start a revival but we create so little other than from Neto and Traore and opponents know that. The last two seasons we were predictable but solid, most of this we’ve been predictable in attack but far from solid at the back. As I said above Nuno turned a poor run round two years ago but I’m not sure things are quite lined up correctly to do it again.

 

[The Bear]

If Lopetegui became available again, and we showed no signs of picking up consistently, would we be interested again? He's done a great job at Sevilla.

 

[The Bion]

I was wondering if someone like Jesse Marsch (the Salzburg manager) might be on their radar, long-term. Interestingly transfermarkt seem to think he's a Gestifute client..

The Red Bull line has been churning out some quality coaches in recent years

 

[t3ch]

The more I think about it, the more insane I think we'd be to even consider changing the manager. We landed one of the best coaches in Europe when we were 15th in the Championship and since had unprecedented success for many of us who didn't get to see us in the 70s (or earlier ).

We are facing our first extended run of form under Nuno with the one win in ten. He's not turned that round yet, some of that is a bit of bad luck, plenty of it is on him. It doesn't mean we should just desert him though. He's turned around similar tactical issues before (start of last season when we had same issues vacating the middle of the pitch). I think he knows the 4231 is the best way of solving a lot of those problems but without Podence, or a focal point he's looked at ways to cover those deficiencies (ie. "solutions" that weird people get upset by him saying).

We just need to get through to the end of this season without anything mental happening. Improve the form short term (next 6 games), improve the performances medium term (next 12 games) for us to build on ahead of next season. I think we will invest a fair bit in some key areas, and if we get the right we will have a very nicely balanced squad with some real quality all over the pitch. That's where we need to get to in the next six months or so.

It's OK to have questions or doubts that Nuno can take us into the top 6 regularly.

But Nuno has also more than deserved a proper chance to see if he can achieve it. He needs a full pre-season and at least half a season to see if he can implement it successfully.

these two pretty much sum up where I'm at. I'm nowhere near "nuno out" (btw is anyone actually saying this? seems like a false premise), but I'm pragmatic enough to understand that he has weaknesses and blind spots like any other.

Took the gamble coming to a lower tier team and brought massive success while providing a clear identity. Club spirit, personality, and personnel largely revolves around him. Seems like a good dude. Deserves time to sort things.

Conversely, Moutinho hasn't hit a good cross in two season and is still doing most dead balls. Neves has been a 4th CB for dozens of games. The team passes the ball backwards and sideways without fail, neutering attacks and being a generally uncreative side. Odd game management with 5 minute subs and early retreat into defense. These are all coaching decisions which appear to be unable or unwilling to be resolved.

I don't personally think he'll take us up to that next level, especially without some new ideas from someone/somewhere. I'd obviously love to be proven wrong. Even so, I don't wish him to go anywhere atm.

 

[GLASGOWOLF]

My thought for Nuno's Successor is Moutinho, I think he will finish next season and join Nuno's back team.

 

[SSB]

Happy Birthday to the main man. 47 today.

 

[Throbber3]

My thought for Nuno's Successor is Moutinho, I think he will finish next season and join Nuno's back team.

Nailed it.

 

[Wolvensam]

My thought for Nuno's Successor is Moutinho, I think he will finish next season and join Nuno's back team.

I think that is a cracking shout.

 

[Del Woppio]

It's a romantic suggestion, but tbh I'd rather us not take the risk on somebody with no pedigree whatsoever, no matter how majestic they were as a footballer.

 

[prawnking]

I think that is a cracking shout.

Plus points: you'd have thought he would command respect due to his illustious playing career, and he seems a hard-working, thoughtful guy

Drawbacks: As a senior player has arguably contributed towards much of the conservatism on the pitch during much of this season, and if he really does have a hand in our set plays then he has plenty to learn in a coaching sense, let alone being a PL head coach

 

[Johnny75]

World class player does not equal world class manager.

Moutinho could be a dreadful coach for all we know.

He might also be the next Pep.

His playing career has nothing to do with his ability to manage.

 

[Tredman]

We should treat him like Arteta - need to serve his time and prove his worth as a coach before even considering him as a manager.

I remember a really great player who made a terrible manager at Stafford Rangers

 

[Paul]

World class player does not equal world class manager.

Moutinho could be a dreadful coach for all we know.

He might also be the next Pep.

His playing career has nothing to do with his ability to manage.

Have said it before mediocre players make the best managers, think about it

 

[Tredman]

Have said it before mediocre players make the best managers, think about it

Pep & Johan say hi