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The Football News Thread 2020/21

Deutsch Wolf

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Reminds me of The Hundred in cricket. A game supposedly designed for people who don't like what already exists. Just like that who are these new people? They aren't really there, they are already watching the product which is out there, the clubs just want a higher % of their money
Quite, it's nonsensical. What market are they talking about?



So we're getting 70,000 people jetting in to Manchester every week from Jakarta, Shanghai and Seattle, are we?

I don't get the defeatist "it's happening" mantra as none of it makes even the slightest bit of sense on even the most superficial level. They don't seem to understand that American models don't work outside of America, I mean for a kick off none of their sports are truly global.
 

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But where is the competitiveness of a European Super League? With how the Champions League is set up, its competitive throughout from the qualifying stages, to the groups to the knockout stages to the final. How will a Super League keep the interest for the full season and why would anyone tune in if its a game whereby they aren't competing at the top of the table?
Even for ourselves this season a flirtation, however far fetched, with the wrong end of table has kept it alive to a degree and if we were a few points better off you might still hold hope of a European Spot. If you are 18th in the Super League and can't be relegated where is the interest?
 

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This cuts through the ethos of sport and presents football as entertainment, supporters as customers and clubs as businesses. On that basis it is a legitimate model and puts the highest level of club football of par with WWE - revenue driven by TV money, advertising and corporate sponsorship. It is the obvious step to take if this is how you view football.

I am definitely in the opposing camp, a "legacy fan". The risk and rewards of an open competition are paramount. Wimbledon, Leicester City, Bradford, Barnsley, Bournemouth, Manchester City - all clubs that have risen from the lower leagues to compete at the pinnacle of domestic football. The Premier League is a qualified success, all of the so called big six have had to earn the right to play at a higher level of European competition and reaped the rewards, all have failed to do so at various time and have had to take the pain. As it should be.

The big six have now breached the rules of the Premier League and arguably it is a fundamental breach that goes to the very heart of the contract that exists between football clubs and the Premier League. They, not the Premier League, have breached that contract and they have done so during the season. They should be immediately expelled, their results for this season expunged and those left in European Competition should be expelled from those competitions too.

I do think there is some merit in the format though and if these clubs were to remove the requirement that they were in every season and accepted the need to qualify then there may be room for an agreement to be reached with the governing bodies.
 

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But where is the competitiveness of a European Super League? With how the Champions League is set up, its competitive throughout from the qualifying stages, to the groups to the knockout stages to the final. How will a Super League keep the interest for the full season and why would anyone tune in if its a game whereby they aren't competing at the top of the table?
Even for ourselves this season a flirtation, however far fetched, with the wrong end of table has kept it alive to a degree and if we were a few points better off you might still hold hope of a European Spot. If you are 18th in the Super League and can't be relegated where is the interest?

It's two leagues of 10, isn't it? Then it becomes a knockout comp in latter stages.

I agree if no one else can get into it and there's no relegation then a fair chunk of the season is just glorified friendlies
 

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I do think there is some merit in the format though and if these clubs were to remove the requirement that they were in every season and accepted the need to qualify then there may be room for an agreement to be reached with the governing bodies.

This is the trouble though, they won't remove that requirement because that's one of the biggest factors in them wanting this. They want the guarantee to be at that elite table year in, year out
 

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It's two leagues of 10, isn't it? Then it becomes a knockout comp in latter stages.

I agree if no one else can get into it and there's no relegation then a fair chunk of the season is just glorified friendlies
Yes, 5th gets into a 1/4 final play off