Early Bird

[Aikiwolf]

http://mobile.wolves.co.uk/news/article/wolves-launch-early-bird-survey-2190986.aspx

So the early bird will be returning this February. The club are considering opening it to all fans to increase attendance, though season ticket holders get to a have a vote on whether they agree or not!

I am 70:30 against opening it to all people without some sort of reward to current season ticket holders - so who has a good argument to persuade me to vote to open it up to everyone?!

 

[Penk Wolf]

What difference would it make to you if Joe Bloggs saved £100 on his new season ticket? He'd get it at early bird price next season anyway.

Open to all for me.

 

[Lycan]

Why do current season ticket holders need a reward?

Surely the reward is getting a discount on your ticket for showing loyalty by booking early.

 

[Paddingtonwolf]

Absolutely fine by me. The more season ticket holders the merrier.

 

[Aikiwolf]

Why do current season ticket holders need a reward?

Surely the reward is getting a discount on your ticket for showing loyalty by booking early.

Because I deserve it!

it's nice for the club to recognise people who have supported the club for loyalty over a number of years, unfortunately this is a side effect of treating fans as customers - makes us more demanding!

Regular repeat custom equates to a stable fan base and therefore the stable fan base of season ticket holders need to be "looked after" to ensure further repeat business - as we have seen across football, season ticket holders are declining due to the majority of clubs not winning anything and people become more success focused. A cheaper ticket doesn't necessarily hold enough sway for these repeat customers if it's open to everyone, and once someone decides to invest money into other pastimes it becomes difficult to tempt them back.

The club saying the early bird might be open to all is essentially saying the prices are too expensive...

 

[lemonjelly]

Why do current season ticket holders need a reward?

Surely the reward is getting a discount on your ticket for showing loyalty by booking early.

A minority of STH's sometimes come across like they deserve special additional entitlements to everyone else.
Whilst I can understand the appeal of some perks that come with a ST, it seems they are reluctant to share in these entitlements.
Surely opening up the early bird could encourage frequent attenders to go for it & benefit the club long term?

 

[Kenny]

This just looks like a good excuse for an uber fans v wannabe uber fans fight (on a par with the South Bank v North Bank shite). Top stuff Wolves. Make the decision yourself.

 

[Aikiwolf]

A minority of STH's sometimes come across like they deserve special additional entitlements to everyone else.
Whilst I can understand the appeal of some perks that come with a ST, it seems they are reluctant to share in these entitlements.
Surely opening up the early bird could encourage frequent attenders to go for it & benefit the club long term?

And encouraging more people to attend long term is the bit that sways me towards voting yes, but I deserve special treatment for buying a season ticket and turning up (occasionally!)

 

[Tony Towner]

Because I deserve it!

it's nice for the club to recognise people who have supported the club for loyalty over a number of years, unfortunately this is a side effect of treating fans as customers - makes us more demanding!

Regular repeat custom equates to a stable fan base and therefore the stable fan base of season ticket holders need to be "looked after" to ensure further repeat business - as we have seen across football, season ticket holders are declining due to the majority of clubs not winning anything and people become more success focused. A cheaper ticket doesn't necessarily hold enough sway for these repeat customers if it's open to everyone, and once someone decides to invest money into other pastimes it becomes difficult to tempt them back.

The club saying the early bird might be open to all is essentially saying the prices are too expensive...

Surely you get a season ticket for one of or a mixture of the following; it's money saving, you guarantee your seat, you sit with your mates, convenience, easier to get premium away/cup tickets, habit.

I struggle to understand why someone who currently doesn't have one getting the chance to buy at the same price as you would dissuade you or anybody from renewing.

 

[Lycan]

Because I deserve it!

You deserve one for putting up with Mike's patter for a whole season...

 

[Penk Wolf]

This just looks like a a good excuse for a uber fans v wannabe uber fans fight (on a par with the South Bank v North Bank shite). Top stuff Wolves. Make the decision yourself.

Yeah, why ask? Just do it.

They didn't have a vote on whether we wanted to sign Leon bloody Clarke.

 

[Parkins left foot]

Coming from this far out transport costs limit the number of games I can do, but the possibility of minimising ticket price (particularly as from the end of March I will qualify for an old buggers concession) might well make it worthwhile getting a season ticket for next season (likely not to spend any less over the season, but would be able to attend more matches) so this initiative would be of benefit.

As long as you can be happy that the price for you has not been increased to cover this initiative then can't see how it hurts, though would have no problem with existing season ticket holders getting an short advance window so that they can get first pick of the seats

 

[Aikiwolf]

Yeah, why ask? Just do it.

They didn't have a vote on whether we wanted to sign Leon bloody Clarke.

Tbh I'm not sure why the Wolves asked, it won't dissuade people to renew - it may make people think again, ie those who are a bit skirt might not renew as they won't loose any benefit of renewing next year. But this will be a minority of people

 

[Aikiwolf]

You deserve one for putting up with Mike's patter for a whole season...

What patter....?

 

[darlowolf64]

Oy you two...I can read all this you know!

Yeah I don't have a problem opening it up as long as I get my seat

 

[Parkins left foot]

Yeah I don't have a problem opening it up as long as I get my seat

As said earlier - don't have a problem with an advance window for existing ST holders to re secure their seat (or make a new choice), before new buyers come on the scene. After that then the more ST holders there are the better

 

[Kenny]

As said earlier - don't have a problem with an advance window for existing ST holders to re secure their seat (or make a new choice), before new buyers come on the scene. After that then the more ST holders there are the better

STH's will have their seat secured right up until around a week before the general sale starts (just before that opens, the seat move window starts). So any anyone buying a new ticket on the EB would have to pick from seats not currently allocated to STH's

 

[Parkins left foot]

STH's will have their seat secured right up until around a week before the general sale starts (just before that opens, the seat move window starts). So any anyone buying a new ticket on the EB would have to pick from seats not currently allocated to STH's

Fair enough - not looked into it much before as not viable

 

[Quirkafleeg]

As long as I can get my season ticket for £350 again next season I couldn't care less if a fan that's never been one gets it at that price.

 

[Johnny75]

Fans seem to confuse buying tickets in bulk and early (early bird season ticket) with loyalty. I don't think the club do a very good job of encouraging either, and often it's confusing.

If the 'I've been a season ticket holder through the dark times' brigade want their loyalty rewarded then the club should set up a scheme whereby they can get some other reward for being loyal to the club.