Homophobic Language at Forest

[CovJet]

I'm a Wolves fan doing research on homophobic language vs banter at football games. Anybody know what was allegedly said by the Wolves fan arrested at Forest?

 

[Jonzy the ref]

I was a high level referee. I was constantly abused about my sexuality during matches. Couldn't be further from the truth as I'm a red blooded male as they come. Its sad this is still a thing in this day and age

 

[CovJet]

Thanks Jonzy. I'm trying to matrix what is generally regarded as banter and what has (pernicious) intent and therefore what constitutes hate...

 

[AndyWolves]

Thanks Jonzy. I'm trying to matrix what is generally regarded as banter and what has (pernicious) intent and therefore what constitutes hate...

Problem with banter is that it normalises views. What one person may consider harmless banter may indicate to another that their views are acceptable

Edit. Id seriously question the value of any research that decides what is and isn't 'banter'.

 

[Alan]

Let’s not equate being heterosexual to being male please

 

[SSB]

Hmm sounds a bit suspicious. Which news outlet are you doing this “research” for?

 

[The Saturday Boy]

I was a high level referee. I was constantly abused about my sexuality during matches. Couldn't be further from the truth as I'm a red blooded male as they come. Its sad this is still a thing in this day and age

So gay men have different coloured blood?

I can’t believe I didn’t know that.

It’s sad that these types of stereotypes are still a thing in this day and age.

 

[Del Woppio]

I was a high level referee. I was constantly abused about my sexuality during matches. Couldn't be further from the truth as I'm a red blooded male as they come. Its sad this is still a thing in this day and age

Unlike the gays with their sparkly rainbow blood, amirite

 

[Lycan]

as I'm a red blooded male

I think I was just sick in my mouth a little.

 

[Alan]

Unlike the gays with their sparkly rainbow blood, amirite

Shhhhh it’s part of the gay agenda dontchaknow

 

[CovJet]

Problem with banter is that it normalises views. What one person may consider harmless banter may indicate to another that their views are acceptable

Edit. Id seriously question the value of any research that decides what is and isn't 'banter'.

The police and CP have to decide what language constitutes criminal behaviour....some language, in my opinion, should be dealt with through education rather than prosecution

 

[Keef]

As I understand it, banter is what people say their outdated wrong views are when they get called out on homophobia, racism, or whatever else they’re on about.

 

[CovJet]

As I understand it, banter is what people say their outdated wrong views are when they get called out on homophobia, racism, or whatever else they’re on about.

Perhaps that is the case but what I'm trying to get to is at what point does it become criminal? If you do 35 in a 30 you get education not a criminal record....

 

[CovJet]

Hmm sounds a bit suspicious. Which news outlet are you doing this “research” for?

My PhD at University

 

[Tony Towner]

Perhaps that is the case but what I'm trying to get to is at what point does it become criminal? If you do 35 in a 30 you get education not a criminal record....

That's debatable. You sit in a room for 4 hours because you have to. I doubt it changes the way the vast majority drive. It's a box ticking effort. I very much doubt you are going to make a middle aged man change the way he thinks or speaks with such a programme. It would be a worthwhile exercise for youths and kids.

 

[sycophantia]

As I understand it, banter is what people say their outdated wrong views are when they get called out on homophobia, racism, or whatever else they’re on about.

I'm sure this is case sometimes, however among me and my mates, pretty much all 'banter' is directed at one another and refers to something that's happened between us in the past, usually referred to as 'taking the piss'

 

[SSB]

My PhD at University

Ok. I went to the match and didn’t hear any homophobic comments, if that helps at all.

 

[AndyWolves]

I struggle to believe a PhD paper would use a term as nebulous as banter, unless you've defined that OP?

 

[Alan]

I'm sure this is case sometimes, however among me and my mates, pretty much all 'banter' is directed at one another and refers to something that's happened between us in the past, usually referred to as 'taking the piss'

Context is important tbf. Unfortunately, many people seem to think that they can do things like call me a "f*g" and then get out of it by saying "it's just a joke". Nah, we're not friends like that. You don't get to call me that. Etc.

I struggle to believe a PhD paper would use a term as nebulous as banter, unless you've defined that OP?

Assuming it's quality research, such a word would have a section in the paper dedicated to defining it in more measurable terms.

 

[AndyWolves]

Context is important tbf. Unfortunately, many people seem to think that they can do things like call me a "f*g" and then get out of it by saying "it's just a joke". Nah, we're not friends like that. You don't get to call me that. Etc.

Assuming it's quality research, such a word would have a section in the paper dedicated to defining it in more measurable terms.

Aye, I'd be really interested to see what that definition looked like