Wolves 2-3 Everton - verdict thread.

[YoungWolf]

One serious worry for me is Vitor is sanctioning all this fucking Aldi dross coming in.

And then he’s complaining about the quality of the squad

 

[prawnking]

Are you questioning...The List!?

 

[Wolftone]

Yeah it was shambolic today but play Arias on the right, Lopez further left, keep JSL, swap Toti for Krejci. Maybe Mosquera for Agbadou.
Whole thing might (I stress might) look a whole lot better.
Keep persisting with line ups and performances like today and Vitor will be gone.
Hope he can sort it.

 

[Tredman]

Agba needs time out. Id be going:

SA
Jackson - Mosquera - Krejci - Wolfe
Rodrigo - Gomes - Andre - Lopez
Arias
JSL​

 

[jd1981]

Agba needs time out. Id be going:

SA
Jackson - Mosquera - Krejci - Wolfe
Rodrigo - Gomes - Andre - Lopez
Arias
JSL​

Yep that sides still going down I think.
Getting the starting lineup right turns us into a 25-30 point a season side and going down.
Getting wrong turns us into a 15 point a season side.
Unless our new signings turn into PL quality and a bit over the international break.

 

[prawnking]

Reckon that RHS gives away a fair few goals

 

[slink]

Incredibly down after watching that performance. Just so much lacking in every department and the manager looks like he’s losing any idea and has clearly fallen out with Andre.

 

[Celtiña]

For me its simple.

Bad preseasson, trying use all time same player and tactics like last seasson. dont test new things.

Big sells, important player but coach dont say anithing about sign good player.

The seasson starts and don know if the new player are good or bad, because all sign too late..

R. Gomes all time show nice things, seem great player but all time start in the bench.

Muntesi play in a strange position to that type of player... i think is good player but that position its worn. For me he its a DMF or CM.

 

[big mean bunny]

Discussing it today I likened us back to when QPR sold Les Ferdinand. Was the type of quality player they ultimately won't going to replace and so spent the money on multiple areas. But without his goals, quality and aura in the team they utterly fell apart and just got worse and worse as the season went on (granted it was the season after as they sold him in like Feb/March) and that just highlighted all the other weaker parts.

We haven't come close to replacing what Cunha, and Ait-Nouri were offering us, worse once you add in Semedo, and we haven't tried to replace them with near like for like it seems.

 

[Wolftone]

I think we have to hope that something clicks, it might be by accident rather than design.
Trying to stay optimistic.
End of the day, their third was a blinding finish and we SHOULD have had a penalty.

 

[North West Wanderer]

Hola, me llamo Óscar, tengo 50 años, soy español aficionado a los lobos y éste es mi primer hilo además de mi presentación y espero cumplir mi sueño de poder ir a Molineux a ver a mi wolves en directo, a poder ser en la premier ...
Espero aportar una visión diferente ya que al ser de otro país veo las cosas de otro modo.
Siento no ser muy optimista en cuanto al fichajes de Kresic por el dineral que ha costado, no creo que valga eso, desde luego no es de los mejores defensores de la liga, pero espero que me equivoque.
Estas últimas tres temporadas he sido testigo como se ha ido degradando cada temporada el equipo, cada vez que algún jugador destaca, se vende, entiendo que hay ofertas que no se pueden rechazar, pero en una temporada en las que ha recaudado más de 100 millones y no ha traído nada relevante al equipo cuando llevamos tres jornadas, no entiendo que también vayas a vender a lo poco que nos queda arriba cuando no nos hace falta vender está temporada. ¿No saldrá más caro, si descendemos a Championship?
Es decir, se critica al entrenador a los jugadores...pero la gestión del club en los tres últimos años es de risa, peor que la del M. Utd. Pero ellos lo arreglan con millones que nosotros no tenemos. En un club como el nuestro tienes que tener un ejército de ojeadores y un buen equipo directivo, que te supla las bajas que sabes que vas a tener lo antes posible como la de Cunha, cosa que no ocurre, vendemos y vendemos y luego tardan meses en traer a alguien, donde invierten el dinero? Ahora venderás a Larsen a horas de cerrar el mercado, con lo que habrán recogido 160millones...con eso, puedes armar un buen equipo, y que vamos a fichar por Larsen a escasa horas?
El trabajo de la directiva y de Mendes es lamentable, ellos son los culpables.
Un saludo.

Bienvenido y estoy de acuerdo, amigo mío.

 

[North West Wanderer]

If we finish 19th, that's better than I expect.
Will I be glad of 3pm KOs every week? Yep.
Do I expect us to go back up? Fuck no. Look at the project clubs and those better set up than us. we are fucked.

 

[C.L.D]

I'm disappointed at the result but I just can't find the effort to blame the players - no matter what's been spent on them we know they're not good enough on the whole. Even VP, yeah some of the tactics and formations are strange but again, see what he's had to work with and it's clear we've had a recruitment process that's all over the place. Whether Hobbs deserved being removed (he did) the timing was terrible, almost the worst possible time given how much business needed doing.

In the scenario we're still in bottom 3 come Dec/Jan and a new manager is hired what do we expect them to do that VP/Teti can't with this team?

And it all points upwards, we know this is all the result of Fosun's "direction" for the last 5 years or so.

Its just all confusion or resignation at this stage. Sasha looked ok but we have Arokodare coming in to be backup ST if JSL stays? So wouldn't that money be better spent on the defence? Midfield? Getting some creativity anywhere on pitch?

 

[jd1981]

I think we have to hope that something clicks, it might be by accident rather than design.
Trying to stay optimistic.
End of the day, their third was a blinding finish and we SHOULD have had a penalty.

Same things said in 2004 & 2012, Everton should’ve been out of sight by the time they got their 3rd.
Everton always had the ability to beat us today no matter what we did.
The gulf in class reminded me of how out our depth we were in the 03/04 season.

 

[prawnking]

Agree, we look quite a way behind a transitional team like Everton, let alone small and competent clubs like Bournemouth...let alone the genuine big hitters in the league.

Promoted teams also picking up the odd point in the first few games too. All very worrying

 

[PuntsWolf]

Its just all confusion or resignation at this stage. Sasha looked ok but we have Arokodare coming in to be backup ST if JSL stays? So wouldn't that money be better spent on the defence? Midfield? Getting some creativity anywhere on pitch?

Yeah singing another forward for a load of cash who in all likelihood will be bang average just seem bonkers

 

[James]

If we finish 19th, that's better than I expect.
Will I be glad of 3pm KOs every week? Yep.
Do I expect us to go back up? Fuck no. Look at the project clubs and those better set up than us. we are fucked.

Sadly with skysports + 12.30's are very likely

 

[North West Wanderer]

Sadly with skysports + 12.30's are very likely

True. my disdain for football grows by the day.

 

[prawnking]

We would probably have been better off buying a £40m Cunha replacement rather than a couple of cheap options and then inexplicably throwing £50m at Krejci and Arokodare.

We seem to be basically filling our first XI and squad just with squad players (at best)

 

[jd1981]

Sadly with skysports + 12.30's are very likely

I’ll bet our opening fixture next season will be Cardiff away on a Friday night.