Ex-Wolf Watch

[Jinky]

Wrong thread!

 

[Sedgley Wolf]

Reports that Villa can't get Dendoncker off their books, 90k a week. Currently training with the U21s.

 

[Kenny]

Dion Sanderson joins Derby on loan for the season.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

Dion Sanderson joins Derby on loan for the season.

John Eustace bloody loves him. Peter Taylor/Junior Lewis or Steve Bruce/Ahmed Elmohamady vibes.

 

[Alan]

Jeong Sang-Bin got a goal last night, on debut for St. Louis City. He's turned into a tidy little attacking midfielder, if unspectacular. High floor, low ceiling type shit.

@Banjo I hope you don't mind me asking, but what's up with hyphenation in Korean names? I always see Hwang as "Hwang Hee-Chan", but all I can find for Jeong is "Jeong Sang Bin". Is there a "correct" way? Tell me to fuck off if this is presumptuous.

 

[Banjo]

Jeong Sang-Bin got a goal last night, on debut for St. Louis City. He's turned into a tidy little attacking midfielder, if unspectacular. High floor, low ceiling type shit.

@Banjo I hope you don't mind me asking, but what's up with hyphenation in Korean names? I always see Hwang as "Hwang Hee-Chan", but all I can find for Jeong is "Jeong Sang Bin". Is there a "correct" way? Tell me to fuck off if this is presumptuous.

The hyphenation appears to have been a way to make things easier to read when Romanising the names. It's not a necessity by any means, and I tend not to use them (my son's middle name is Jiwoo, for example, not "Ji-Woo"). If a person's given name is easy to write and pronounce, you won't see a hyphen. It's just a way of breaking down the Romanised form.

In Korean, a name is nearly always three, one syllable blocks. All surnames are one syllable and almost all "given" names are two syllables. For example, 손흥민 is 손 (Son) 흥 (Heung) 민 (Min). There's no hyphen to be seen in the Korean alphabet!

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

I'm never sure on the order.

Is it Hee Chan Hwang (as the big idiot on our PA says) or Hwang Hee Chan (which looks more "right" to me)?

 

[Banjo]

I'm never sure on the order.

Is it Hee Chan Hwang (as the big idiot on our PA says) or Hwang Hee Chan (which looks more "right" to me)?

Surname is always first in Korean, so Hwang is meant to come first.

Because we do it the other way round in the West, Koreans abroad tend to adapt to make things easier for us all, which is why there is inconsistency.

Another common adaptation is putting extra consonants in places when Romanising a word to make things easier to write and to say for Westeners - for example the surname "Lee" is actually just "ee" in Korean.

 

[Deutsch Wolf]

So - Park Ji Sung, Son Heung Min.

Ta mate.

 

[Alan]

Park (family) Ji (generation) Sung (personal), IIRC?

 

[Banjo]

Park (family) Ji (generation) Sung (personal), IIRC?

The breakdown of the given name (ie what we would call the first name) is not as formal as that these days. People call their kids whatever they feel like, provided it's two syllables!

 

[Alan]

Ah that’s a shame (for me personally). I really like the idea of that format! Probably not the über-traditional “even cousins are the same” thing.

 

[Del Woppio]

People call their kids whatever they feel like, provided it's two syllables!

Then "Banjo" really needs to be in the mix next time around

 

[Alan]

Then "Banjo" really needs to be in the mix next time around

I have dibs on that

 

[jlo]

I have dibs on that

You don't want dibs on that

 

[Jinky]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1955346415862878336

 

[Lycan]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1955346415862878336

Fair play to the lad, that was excellent.

 

[Lupo]

Shows the folly of being impressed by players based on highlights reels from inferior leagues

 

[darlowolf64]

Conor Carty has scored against Besiktas for St Pats in the Europa Conference League qualifier to reduce the score to 4-2

 

[Lycan]

Cav moving back to Portugal to join up with Joe Hodge at Tondela